What is the most valuable thing in a trustless world?
Jason Carpenter, founder of EtherBridge, joins Jamil Hasan on the Crypto Hipster Podcast for a conversation that begins with his family’s experience in Zimbabwe and ultimately reaches the future of open financial infrastructure.
Jason traces his journey from studying accounting in South Africa and initially dismissing Bitcoin to discovering a much deeper question: what is money, and how does it actually move through the financial system?
They explore property rights, institutional trust, crypto’s 2022 reckoning, why EtherBridge chose to educate investors before accepting their capital, and the strange paradox Jason discovered in crypto: in an industry built around trustlessness, trustworthy people became incredibly valuable.
The conversation moves into DeFi, why the word “cryptocurrency” may obscure more than it explains, the difficulty of valuing assets that combine characteristics of commodities, currencies and capital assets, token-holder rights, AI agents, and Jason’s vision for financial infrastructure increasingly built on-chain.
No price predictions. No hype. A conversation about money, trust, institutions—and what we may build next.


